02. Mario Party DS (DS) - 107,000 / 646,000
03. Tales of Innocence (DS) - 104,000 / NEW
04. Hot Shots Golf Portable 2 (PSP) - 87,000 / NEW
05. Professor Layton and Pandora's Box (DS) - 76,000 / 370,000
06. Dragon Quest IV (DS) - 63,000 / 795,000
07. Lost Odyssey (Xbox 360) - 55,000 / NEW
08. Power Pro Kun Pocket 10 (DS) - 54,000 / NEW
09. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) - 45,000 / 476,000
10. Mario %26 Sonic at the Olympic Games (Wii) - 45,000 / 148,00011. SD Gundam G Generation Spirits (PS2)
12. World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (PS2)
13. Gintama: Gin-Oh Quest (DS)
14. Wii Sports (Wii)
15. Wii Play (Wii)
16. Sengoku Basara 2: Heroes (PS2)
17. Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaikida (PSP)
18. Nep League DS (DS)
19. Silent Hill Origins (PSP)
20. Mario Party 8 (Wii)
21. World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (PS3)
22. Pokémon Mysterious Dungeon: Time Expedition Party (DS)
23. Mario Kart DS (DS)
24. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (PS3)
25. MySims (DS)
26. Yakuza 2 (PS2)
27. New Super Mario Bros. (DS)
28. Pokémon Mysterious Dungeon: Shadow Expedition Party (DS)
29. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (PSP)
30. Haneru no Tobira DS: Tanshuku Tetsudou no Yoru (DS)Wii Fit takes the top spot this week, which isn't a huge surprise. Mario Galaxy fought its way back into the top ten, so that is nice counterbalance to the onslaught of Wii Fit... and Lost Odyssey did ok for its first week, but I suspect it won't have legs... and Uncharted... poor poor Uncharted. Why do they hate you so? ...and perhaps even more than Wii Fit taking the top spot, the death of gaming in Japan was confirmed by No More Heroes not even cracking the top 30.Media Create Japan Sales 12/3-12/9 (Curses to thee and thine Wii Fit!!!)
That's disappointing about No More Heroes and Uncharted. I love Uncharted to death and I can't wait to get No More Heroes. At least Mario Galaxy managed to push its way back into the top 10.Media Create Japan Sales 12/3-12/9 (Curses to thee and thine Wii Fit!!!)
that really sucks about no more heroes, hopfully it does alot better in the coming weeks, and hopfully it does better here in the states.
Judging by Killer 7 (which had a distinct style but whose gameplay was an afterthought) the Japanese avoiding Suda 51's latest is actually a good thing. Galaxy's sales show that there hardcore gamers, while a dying breed, aren't entirely dead in Japan.As for Uncharted, I don't think there are many non-Japanese makers of hardcore games that realistically expect to succeed in Japan (heck, Japanese makers of hardcore games are giving up on the market).
Well it was good while it lasted, time to find a new hobby. :PGalaxy is doing very well. Whats Yakuza 2 doing on that list, wow they love that series over there.
[QUOTE=''CarnageHeart''] Judging by Killer 7 (which had a distinct style but whose gameplay was an afterthought) the Japanese avoiding Suda 51's latest is actually a good thing. Galaxy's sales show that there hardcore gamers, while a dying breed, aren't entirely dead in Japan.As for Uncharted, I don't think there are many non-Japanese makers of hardcore games that realistically expect to succeed in Japan (heck, Japanese makers of hardcore games are giving up on the market).[/QUOTE]Um, the majority of the games on that list are normal games, I don't see how the ''hardcore'' games are dying there.
[QUOTE=''dvader654''][QUOTE=''CarnageHeart''] Judging by Killer 7 (which had a distinct style but whose gameplay was an afterthought) the Japanese avoiding Suda 51's latest is actually a good thing. Galaxy's sales show that there hardcore gamers, while a dying breed, aren't entirely dead in Japan.As for Uncharted, I don't think there are many non-Japanese makers of hardcore games that realistically expect to succeed in Japan (heck, Japanese makers of hardcore games are giving up on the market).[/QUOTE]Um, the majority of the games on that list are normal games, I don't see how the ''hardcore'' games are dying there.[/QUOTE]As I stated, nothing happened in the week under discussion which bodes poorly for hardcore games in Japan (Western made hardcore games failed even when the industry was robust) the dozens of prior weeks show a clear decline in the popularity of hardcore games.That is why Japanese game developers are moving away from the Japanese market (in the past, popularity in Japan dictated the level of support from Japanese developers, but that isn't the case nowadays). Sure, the decline isn't evident in this week's data, but a month ago someone looking at the charts might have concluded that the PSP is more popular than the DS is Japan.
[QUOTE=''CarnageHeart''] Judging by Killer 7 (which had a distinct style but whose gameplay was an afterthought) the Japanese avoiding Suda 51's latest is actually a good thing. Galaxy's sales show that there hardcore gamers, while a dying breed, aren't entirely dead in Japan.As for Uncharted, I don't think there are many non-Japanese makers of hardcore games that realistically expect to succeed in Japan (heck, Japanese makers of hardcore games are giving up on the market).[/QUOTE] Sometimes the Japanese sales charts just annoy me. 360 is a great system, Uncharted is an awesome game and Wii Fit doesn't deserve the NO.1 spot.
WiiFit helps Wii helps Galaxy.
[QUOTE=''CarnageHeart'']Judging by Killer 7 (which had a distinct style but whose gameplay was an afterthought) the Japanese avoiding Suda 51's latest is actually a good thing.[/QUOTE]Judging by most of the impressions of the game being relatively positive regarding the gameplay, from what I've seen so far, no, it really isn't a good thing.
[QUOTE=''azad_champ''][QUOTE=''CarnageHeart''] Judging by Killer 7 (which had a distinct style but whose gameplay was an afterthought) the Japanese avoiding Suda 51's latest is actually a good thing. Galaxy's sales show that there hardcore gamers, while a dying breed, aren't entirely dead in Japan.As for Uncharted, I don't think there are many non-Japanese makers of hardcore games that realistically expect to succeed in Japan (heck, Japanese makers of hardcore games are giving up on the market).[/QUOTE] Sometimes the Japanese sales charts just annoy me. 360 is a great system, Uncharted is an awesome game and Wii Fit doesn't deserve the NO.1 spot.[/QUOTE]One thing to keep in mind is that hardcore gaming was dying in Japan long before casual games hit (software sales had peaked in 1997). Ideally (for me) both schools of gaming would be healthy (I don't care for casual games, but the notion of my great-aunt playing games doesn't bother me any) but the problem in Japan is that hardcore gaming is dying. By way of contrast, in the US, both schools of gaming are flourishing. So my theory is that there isn't a relationship between the two schools of gaming (the growth of one does not come at the expense of the other).
The ''hardcore'' is really getting owned in sales - and not only in Japan. Look at Vgchartz worldwide sales (they might be a whopping 10 % off though :O ) LINKThe top 5 games are all rated 3+ :P (Well, Wii sports is actually 7+)
Wii fit seems like the gateway drug for corperations to start makeing trendy simpleminded games. I really really hope gameing maintains its overall quality and doesnt go the way of cable TV.
Kind of sad about No More Heroes, but if I recall correctly, didn't Killer 7 have pretty weak sales in Japan too? Oh well, either way I'm not the biggest fan of Suda's games. They often cross the line of being artistically weird to being weird for the sake of being weird. I mean, did you play Contact? The best part of that game was the manual. The rest of it was just a generic game with weird stuff just to break up the monotony.
[QUOTE=''Robio_basic'']Kind of sad about No More Heroes, but if I recall correctly, didn't Killer 7 have pretty weak sales in Japan too? Oh well, either way I'm not the biggest fan of Suda's games. They often cross the line of being artistically weird to being weird for the sake of being weird. I mean, did you play Contact? The best part of that game was the manual. The rest of it was just a generic game with weird stuff just to break up the monotony.[/QUOTE]What I dug about Contact was it's sort of blending of a few conventions from RPGs into a resonably fun package. The non-linear character development system was refreshing to work with, too, given the varying character classes you could work.Didn't hurt that the soundtrack was prety awesome, too.
Well, that top 10 is almost painful to behold. Wii Fit at the top spot is not really annoying, but Mario Party DS certainly is.
[QUOTE=''Skylock00''] [QUOTE=''Robio_basic'']Kind of sad about No More Heroes, but if I recall correctly, didn't Killer 7 have pretty weak sales in Japan too? Oh well, either way I'm not the biggest fan of Suda's games. They often cross the line of being artistically weird to being weird for the sake of being weird. I mean, did you play Contact? The best part of that game was the manual. The rest of it was just a generic game with weird stuff just to break up the monotony.[/QUOTE]What I dug about Contact was it's sort of blending of a few conventions from RPGs into a resonably fun package. The non-linear character development system was refreshing to work with, too, given the varying character classes you could work.Didn't hurt that the soundtrack was prety awesome, too.[/QUOTE] I thought the character classes were amusing and the game did have it's moments, but overall I found it to just have a very generic feel to it. Combat was rather frustrating too. It wasn't quite turned based and it wasn't quite real-time. It was just a mixture that ended up to be about as appealing as toothpaste and orange juice.[QUOTE=''nopalversion'']Well, that top 10 is almost painful to behold. Wii Fit at the top spot is not really annoying, but Mario Party DS certainly is.[/QUOTE] Yeah well Mario Party in Japan is going to be declared a national past-time in the next few years I'm sure, so let's get used to it. Hell Mario Party 8 came out over 6 months ago and it's still a top 20 game.
[QUOTE=''CarnageHeart''][QUOTE=''azad_champ''][QUOTE=''CarnageHeart''] Judging by Killer 7 (which had a distinct style but whose gameplay was an afterthought) the Japanese avoiding Suda 51's latest is actually a good thing. Galaxy's sales show that there hardcore gamers, while a dying breed, aren't entirely dead in Japan.As for Uncharted, I don't think there are many non-Japanese makers of hardcore games that realistically expect to succeed in Japan (heck, Japanese makers of hardcore games are giving up on the market).[/QUOTE] Sometimes the Japanese sales charts just annoy me. 360 is a great system, Uncharted is an awesome game and Wii Fit doesn't deserve the NO.1 spot.[/QUOTE]One thing to keep in mind is that hardcore gaming was dying in Japan long before casual games hit (software sales had peaked in 1997). Ideally (for me) both schools of gaming would be healthy (I don't care for casual games, but the notion of my great-aunt playing games doesn't bother me any) but the problem in Japan is that hardcore gaming is dying. By way of contrast, in the US, both schools of gaming are flourishing. So my theory is that there isn't a relationship between the two schools of gaming (the growth of one does not come at the expense of the other).[/QUOTE] I don't think that the hardcore gamers are a dying breed in Japan. Yes, they're getting less,but far from ''dying''. it feels more like Nintendo is doing great business in the casual market that third-party will want to have a piece of the cake. In that way, the hardcore gaming will die. Because we all know that third-party are the ones making most games and they're the ones most devoted to find a money-making target.
Wow there is barely any games in that top 20 list I would consider buying outside of Mario Galaxy and No More Heros (and Mario Party *heart*) I guess thats cultural differences and taste for you.
[QUOTE=''CarnageHeart''] Judging by Killer 7 (which had a distinct style but whose gameplay was an afterthought) the Japanese avoiding Suda 51's latest is actually a good thing. Galaxy's sales show that there hardcore gamers, while a dying breed, aren't entirely dead in Japan.As for Uncharted, I don't think there are many non-Japanese makers of hardcore games that realistically expect to succeed in Japan (heck, Japanese makers of hardcore games are giving up on the market).[/QUOTE] how does galaxy show anything about hardcore gamers? i wouldnt call it entirely a casual game buti really dont think it falls into the hardcore category either.
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